查看原文
其他

经济学是怎么diss社会学的?

高行云 社会学理论大缸 2022-06-09

你肯定知道 Sociology Job Market Rumors 这个网站。大家匿名地上面点评社会学界时事、找工作等等,似乎是研究生为主。

甚至网站组织者还邀请过Andrew Abbott回答他们在该网站上征集的十个问题。

经济学也有,同样的,叫economics job market rumors。

——如果你在人家的地盘里,搜sociology,会找到什么呢?给你看看:


Why does everyone on this site hate sociology? 

Why is Sociology Wrong? 

Why do you think sociology is a joke?


到底经济学学生和学者,是怎么diss社会学的??


比如这个贴子:

Just went to a sociology job talk 【看这个just,就知道没好事了,看看多好为人师的嚣张】


I would've failed her job market paper for a senior undergrad metrics class. No consideration of selection. Specification was terrible. Couldn't interpret her own coefficients. Why do we let sociology get away with this? Why haven't they just admitted they don't know what they're doing and hire some economists?


更diss的话,有说:

Sociologists start with ideology and select facts to reach their conclusions, so it doesn't matter too much if their models are misspecified, since they hold no particular weight in their conclusions.


再看看这个帖子:

Why does everyone on this site hate sociology?


我最喜欢这个回复:

Reading sociology gives me a kind of easy gratification - I get to play around with big important ideas without too much effort or rigor.

【阅读社会学,给我带来了轻松与愉悦。我可以不用花费太多努力,就能玩着大概念了!】


再看这个贴子说得吧:Why is Sociology Wrong?

贴主说:What I'm trying to figure out, is what's the best answer to the golden objection to "neoclassical economics", i.e. humans can't be expected to be rational? I'm too tired of hearing this nonsense. 【确实,总是从打这个点是很意思。】


当然,也不是没有平和的声音,比如有这样尊重社会学家的

Sociologists like Duncan Watts is better than most economists.


还有这样说经济学其实并不读社会学【没准是社会学学生来回复的~】

also most of the people here who criticize sociology/etc couldn't name even 3 decent journals in those fields without using google, its just total ignorance


_________

社会学的job market rumor里怎么看经济学呢??

比如,社会学家也知道经济学家很嚣张,像这样帖子



有个人这样说:

Do you follow any economists on twitter? They are the bullies of the social sciences. Always loud, always ready to pick on a smaller guy. And you know why? They are angry they don't make the cut off for a "real science". Best strategy here is to ignore their yelling and carry on.


当然,还有是很羡慕经济学的。一个学生来问:我修了很多数学的课,但经济竞争太厉害,想转到社会学,大家怎么看。

——某人回答:“你将成为这里的上帝。”




Sociological理论大缸第222期)

链接:

“相关关系=因果关系”在社会学学科中的半世纪秘史(Abbott1998)


广义线性模型背后的广义线性实在(Abbott1988)


Granovetter能得诺贝尔奖?看看《弱关系》是怎么被ASR退稿的


您可能也对以下帖子感兴趣

文章有问题?点此查看未经处理的缓存